USE TIRES TO FILL OPEN MINES SOUNDS REASONABLE TO ME

Perspective for your consideration …

What to do with 10 million discarded tires …Our view: An idea that merits study is using them to fill abandoned mine shafts … Arizona Daily Star …Tucson, Arizona … excerpted … http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/262191 … The state found itself with a new problem last week: How to get rid of up to 10 million old tires. The state also has an old problem: How to reduce the risks posed by abandoned mines shafts. We have a possible solution: Throw the tires into the mines. Doing so would alleviate an environmental hazard caused by the tires and make Arizona’s lands safer for the public.

Though this solution may not resolve all environmental concerns it offers Arizona a lot of possibilities which we ought to consider. I am not a mine expert however it strikes me with some old fashion human ingenuity we can discover a process to keep the tires from degrading and thereby polluting any water it may be in close proximity to.

The millions of tires currently rotting the Arizona sun near Mobile are a far greater potential environment, fire and health hazard than they would be utilized to fill in the more than 50,000 reported open mines in Arizona which are an open invitation to severe harm or death to man.

What’s stopping us from moving forward today on this rather novel and quite simple proposal…?

Who benefits by us not moving forward with this quite simple proposal…?

… People should never be afraid of their government, government should always be afraid of the people …

And let me be even a bit bolder, I am most willing to present and discuss any water issue before any audience in Arizona where open full disclosure and two way dialog is permitted.

RELATIVELY HARMLESS – WHO SAYS AND IN WHAT FORM

Perspective for your consideration … What does it look like when it’s fixed…?

Reading this article the skeptic in me rises to ask the question … who exactly got to choose the firm to do the testing and who comprised the panel delineating exactly what the test parameters are…?

The statement … though relatively harmless … is on its face potentially true providing one precisely delineates the form of this sulfate. Various forms of sulfate can have appreciable deleterious affects on not only humans but animals as well.

Freeport McMoRan’s testing shows that sulfate plume in Bisbee, Naco isn’t spreading
Sierra Vista Herald ….Shar Porier…http://www.svherald.com/articles/2008/10/29/news/doc4907fe972e9af627812243.txt excerpted …Though the testing will continue for another three months, results are indicating the sulfate plume between the old Phelps Dodge evaporation pond and Naco is not drifting southward or going deeper into the underground aquifers. Jim Norris, who is with Hydrogeochem Environmental Consultants, which is heading the testing project for Freeport McMoRan Inc., provided this information in a meeting Tuesday with the community action committee, made up of city and county officials, residents and Arizona Water Co. representatives, in a review of the progress of the ongoing sulfate plume study. The plume remains around 3 1/2 miles long, around two miles wide and runs 200 to 300 feet deep. Over the past nine months, Freeport has been monitoring water levels and testing wells in the aquifer’s range to determine the presence and saturation of sulfate, Norris said during the review.

Though relatively harmless, it can cause stomach discomfort, diarrhea in children and the elderly and affect the taste of the water. A limit of 250 milligrams per liter is the standard maximum amount set by the Environmental Protection Agency. Some sites have sulfate readings between 800 (320% higher than EPA accepted water quality standard) and 1,000 milligrams (400% higher than EPA accepted water quality standard) per liter. Others near the old evaporation pond run between 1,320 to 2,210 (these are magnitudes of incredible levels exceeding EPA accepted water quality standards) milligrams per liter as was shown on a map of the plume area. The wells have to be tested for one year. … Bear in mind EPA standards are the ABSOLUTE minimum levels water needs to be, NOT the best or most beneficial level.

I can hope the citizens in Bisbee and Naco had the opportunity to have their voices and questions heard in an environment providing for full disclosure and two way dialog and incorporated into the study of the sulfate in their drinking water. Anything short of this is nothing more than CYA and business as usual.

… People should never be afraid of their government, government should always be afraid of the people …

And let me be even a bit bolder, I am most willing to present and discuss any water issue before any audience in Arizona where open full disclosure and two way dialog is permitted.

THEY REALLY DO NOT WANT YOUR INPUT

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Scientists plan Colorado River Basin’s future…Ari Cohn …Tribune… 11/21/08 …excerpted…Scottsdale played host this week to a major symposium aimed at creating more flexible and detailed management plans for the Colorado River Basin, which supplies water to much of the Western United States, including Arizona….The goal of the symposium was to develop oversight plans for the basin that can be adapted based on new research and continuous monitoring…
“There are trends that we’re observing, not only warmer, but drier. The important thing is to be aware that it is changing and will continue to change,” she said. “There’s still a lot of uncertainty exactly how it will play out.” … The Colorado River Basin extends south from Wyoming through Arizona and contains parts of California, Nevada, Utah, Colorado and New Mexico….
The river provides water for drinking and agriculture to those states. It includes the Grand Canyon, as well as Phoenix and Las Vegas….The Valley gets much of its water from the Colorado River via the Central Arizona Project canal. …”They’re all getting together and talking about how we can collectively make the best decisions on managing the Colorado River Basin and understanding the diverse demands,” Gordon said….Major issues included determining how to balance power generation, water consumption and recreation with environmental protection. …Other topics included studying fish populations, the effects of sedimentation on river channels and how to combat non-native species like the quagga mussel.
Jeff Humphrey, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service spokesman, said that the mussels are prolific and can eat all of the microorganisms that serve as the base of the food chain in the river network’s ecosystem….They also attach to hard surfaces and can disrupt the functioning of hydroelectric power plants and canals. …”Engineering and economically, what is the effect of this mussel going to be as they gum up the works?”
It is my understanding the agreement setting the stage for who and how much water any one state gets from the Colorado River was decided long ago in 1922 in the Compact of the River…? So what is all this jostling about at the Scottsdale seminar to which you and I were not extended an invitation to present our positions…?

The upper basin states and the lower basin states were allocated 7.4 million acre feet of water per year from the Colorado River. Great, except since 1922 the flow in the Colorado River has averaged 10 million acre feet of water per year. OK, back to the drawing boards.

Now we have a newer player … quagga mussel … which according to the Arizona Republic articles we will manage by allowing water purveyors, water users, power plants, and others to KILL using copious amounts of CHLORINE coupled with a new BIOPESTICIDE. Hey, but not to worry, according to the Arizona Republic article the quagga mussel is benign to human health. Yea, but KILLING it could KILL us…?
Why is it these SCIENTIFIC seminars choose to exclude John Q Public’s input…?
And they especially do not what to have to answer any question you might choose to raise. In the rarified atmosphere of these seminars “double-speak” is the language of the day.

And this “double-speak” will continue until “we” intervene and prevail. The choice is solely one each of us must make.

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Reality can be beaten with enough imagination. … unknown author

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… People should never be afraid of their government, government should always be afraid of the people …

“Fascism ought more properly be called corporatism because it is the perfect merger of power between the corporation and the state.” … Benito Mussolini

Website address for Paul F. Miller’s blog ….

http://energeticsynergy.blogspot.com

https://waterman99.wordpress.com

And let me be even a bit bolder, I am most willing to present and discuss any water issue before any audience in Arizona where open full disclosure and two way dialog is permitted.

THESE DECISIONS AND CHOICES WE PERMITTED

Perspective for your consideration … What does it look like when it’s fixed…?

The temptation, after reading the article referenced below, is to point my finger and arbitrarily blame the Bush administration for all these alleged ills being perpetrated in the 11th hour against our environment. Though they surely are complicit so are – WE – that’s you and me.

The action of EPA and the Bush administration in their final lingering days in power are reflective of the regulatory environment “we” have chosen to permit to exit, though “we” surely do not want to be individually or collectively held accountable or responsible.
White House Undermining Another Environmental Rule…SustainableBusiness.com News…10/29/08…January just can’t come fast enough. The Bush administration, before leaving office, is attempting to loosen yet another rule meant to protect the environment and citizens, against damage inflicted by big business. The Environmental Protection Agency has issued draft regulations that would reduce long-standing pollution limits on older, dirtier power plants, by measuring their emissions on hourly output instead of total annual output. EPA Administrator Stephen L. Johnson said this change to the New Source Review rule will make it work better, but environmentalists and some EPA lawyers say the change will completely undermine the agency’s ability to enforce compliance and require the installation of new anti-pollution technology.
When “we” choose to get involved, to ask pertinent questions, to demand and accept only clear, concise and understandable answers in an atmosphere of full disclosure and open dialog then these types and forms of decisions and actions are far less likely to be rendered.

… People should never be afraid of their government, government should always be afraid of the people …

And let me be even a bit bolder, I am most willing to present and discuss any water issue before any audience in Arizona where open full disclosure and two way dialog is permitted.

STEALTH DECEPTION IS BEING REPLACED

Perspective for your consideration … What does it look like when it’s fixed…?
Bush Sneaks Through 11th Hour Gutting of Environmental Regulations …
Published 14 Nov 2008, 11:40 am …While major attention is focused on President elect Barack Obama’s transition to power, the Bush Administration is spending its twilight days slipping in last minute policies, particularly on environmental regulation. Environmental groups have taken note of recent proposed changes by the Interior Department including revisions to environmental regulations that would change the Endangered Species Act or ESA, open up millions of acres of land for development, and revoke emergency authorities to protect public lands. If finalized under a shortened public comment period, the proposals would hamper the ESA in terms of regulating climate change even if animals face extinction due to global warming. In addition, mining companies could potentially enjoy deregulation of mountaintop removal mining. Environmentalists see these latest moves by the Interior Department as parting shots to what they characterize as the already devastating legacy of the Bush administration on the environment.
By our silence “we” individually give sanction to these sneaky actions of our President. As the “leader” of our nation is it any wonder then other leaders, i.e. Governors, State Legislators, Agency Bureaucrats, other public officials, as well as leaders of for-profit corporate business interests also choose to emulate this leadership by stealth and deception…?
Reports of these sneaky, stealth and deceptive actions appear daily even in main-stream-media outlets like the Arizona Republic, so common and accepting have these actions become to us. We do not recoil when these reports reach our awareness, nor ask any questions, we obediently accept this as “normal.”
In an atmosphere where stealth, sneaky and deception are not only paramount but accepted how does anyone go about bringing about an atmosphere where – change – is a possibility…? Change that first “we” can choose to hear…? And upon hearing, choose to honestly evaluate, assess, apprise…? Our education for these past 30 years or more as been instructions promoting as well as rewarding our choice to evoke those automatic robotic responses prompted by our “quality” education which generously rewards compliance to its perspective, while severely rebuking those whose actions and responses differ.
To me, the concept of change suggests “we” currently possess the individual capacity to honestly and openly evaluate asses and appraise the circumstance and situation in which we find ourselves today in this moment. In my heart of hearts I want to believe this to be true, but I would be lying today to indicate that I do.

For more than 30 years now our eyes, individually and collectively have been deliberately manipulated to see only what the “wizards” behind the scene want us to see, to hear and hopefully to believe. I conclude they have indeed done a stellar job as the majority of Americans remain blinded by their manipulative control of the reality they want you to see, to hear and to believe.

There is on our horizon a beacon and ray of light which providing “we” are able and choose to throw off our shackles of fear can be a point around which “we” can choose to rally.
This rally is unlike any other you may have attended as it asks of you:
 Open your eyes and your mind
 Become aware
 THINK FOR YOURSELF
 Stop being a robot … !

Honest change demands full open disclosure.

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… People should never be afraid of their government, government should always be afraid of the people …

“Fascism ought more properly be called corporatism because it is the perfect merger of power between the corporation and the state.” … Benito Mussolini

And let me be even a bit bolder, I am most willing to present and discuss any water issue before any audience in Arizona where open full disclosure and two way dialog is permitted.

SEWAGE EFFLUENT IS GOLD – BUT – NOT IN YOUR HANDS

Perspective for your consideration …What does it look like when it’s fixed…?

Published: 09.24.20 …Tucson Citizen …’Graywater’ recycling units coming to new city homes. In a couple of years, new homes within city limits will come with at least part of the plumbing needed to use recycled “graywater” on the landscaping. The City Council unanimously approved an ordinance Tuesday night that requires builders to include the waste system needed to connect to a graywater irrigation system. Graywater includes water from bathroom sinks, laundry sinks, showers and tubs. Installing a waste system will cost about $500, according to the Southern Arizona Home Builders Association. The ordinance takes effect June 1, 2010. Supporters of the ordinance at Tuesday’s public hearing included environmentalists, water conservationists and representatives of the local plumbers union. Two mechanical engineers were the only people to speak in opposition, voicing fears that the waste systems within the home would cause clogging and burden homebuyers with another expense. Stan Adams, a mechanical engineer who chairs the city’s Mechanical Code Committee, said removing graywater from the home’s waste system may cause problems with flushing solid waste from toilets, which will be separate from the graywater system. “The ordinance sounds very politically correct,” he said. “I mean who doesn’t want to save water?” But “I think there’s more study that needs to be involved,” Adams said. Jay Casey, training director at Arizona Pipe Trades, said there shouldn’t be any clogging as long as the work is done right. “This idea that is being proposed is being used in several parts of the country,” Casey said. “It shouldn’t be a problem here in Tucson as long as it is done properly.”

One could rise and salute the unilateral action on the part of Tucson to defy current ADEQ rules respecting the design, installation, use and O&M associated with any “greywater” system in Arizona. The current ADEQ rules and regulations respecting the design, installation, use and O&M of any “greywater” system are draconian and grossly inappropriate.

Current “greywater” use in Arizona is limited to primarily those independent and forward thinking individuals who are willing to defy and push the envelope on ADEQ vaunted Unified Permit Rules reputedly promulgated and enforced state-wide. And if you choose to believe that, I most certainly do have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you…!

“It shouldn’t be a problem here in Tucson as long as it is done properly.” … This is the salient point and the Achilles heel of “greywater” use in Arizona. Our political and bureaucratic leaders, those we elected to serve & protect us are unwilling to stand before any of us and admit, they honestly do not want to see “greywater” usage implemented state-wide. Why…? I especially invite you to ask the leaders of all “metro” Phoenix cities and towns, those who sold those rights years ago as cooling water for Palo Verde Nuclear Power Generation plant some 45 miles west of Phoenix. Bottom line, you don’t own your sewage water those rights were transferred to others.

A noted professor at UA in Tucson, Charles Peter Gerba, Ph.D., has for years studied aspects of “greywater” concluding in recent remarks at a seminar in Tucson that a surprising amount of fecal matter, in particular, resides in our laundry water. For many this will not come as a surprise though it alters our current treatment technology employed in Arizona, if indeed, we are honestly choosing to protect both human health and our environment. And our current treatment technologies play directly into the comment … “It shouldn’t be a problem here in Tucson as long as it is done properly.” I believe it can be parenthetically noted we are not choosing to utilize greywater technology which “kills” the pathogens in much of the residual laundry water. The question then turns to what other pharmaceutical, chemical, pesticide, herbicide, fungicide, cosmetic, residuals remain untreated in the “greywater” we are currently choosing to rather whimsically dispose of…?

And guess what…? For-profit water purveyors have discovered and are continuing to discover there is “gold-in-sewage-effluent-liquid” and “we” – that’s the for-profit corporations – are NOT going to share it with the likes of you or you or you.

I invite you to consider perusing these: Blue Gold, by Maude Barlow, Living Water, by Olof Alexandersson, Life’s Matrix, by Phillip Ball, Your Body’s Many Cries for Water, by Dr. F. Batmanghelidj and Silent Spring, by Rachel Carson for starters.

Then I invite you to Google: Suez Lyonnaise des Eaux, Vivendi, RWE AG, Thames Water LLC, USFilter, Bechtel Group and I believe you will begin to discover the enormous and inordinate influence these for-profit corporations exert on the world’s water resource. On the lobbying front, another key battleground of political influence, just three groups — the National Association of Water Companies, United Water and American Water Works —traditionally have supported privatization measures.

So you really think Arizona government honestly endorses statewide “greywater” use…? Get over it, folks, “greywater” in the right hands can be turned into “gold” and it’s not in your hands…!

Website address for Paul F. Miller’s blog …. http://energeticsynergy.blogspot.com

And let me be even a bit bolder, I am most willing to present and discuss any water issue before any audience in Arizona where open full disclosure and two way dialog is permitted.

Council approves graywater regulations
Homes built after mid-2010 affected
Arizona Daily Star… Rob O’Dell
http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/259086

‘Graywater’ recycling units coming to new city homes
Tucson Citizen… Eric Sagara
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/all_headlines/97585

… People should never be afraid of their government, government should always be afraid of the people …

SAFE WATER CAN BE OUR REALITY

Perspective for your consideration …What does it look like when it’s fixed…?

Investigation finds more toxic drinking water in Valley … KNXV-TV – reported by Joe Ducey…8-19-08 – Kristi Carpenter’s neighborhood is a picturesque area of East Mesa filled with cactus and bordered by mountains. It’s also hiding a secret about its water supply. Carpenter lives near 90th Place, just north of McDowell Road. Her area tested high for total trihalomethanes, or TTHMs. TTHMs form when organic material mixes with chlorine, which cities use to disinfect water supplies. The Environmental Protection Agency sets a limit for TTHMs of 80 parts per billion because of the potential dangers. Valley doctor Marianne Marchese said TTHMs are linked to various cancers, specifically bladder cancer. “It can lead to birth defects. There are various neurological and liver and kidney problems.” Marchese added that TTHMs can be ingested, absorbed or inhaled, and what isn’t excreted is stored in your body fat. “TTHMs can stay in a person’s tissues for 20 to 30 years,” Marchese said, “And then at times it can slowly be released and get back into the blood stream.” At the east Mesa location, city records showed three years of consistently high averages of 116, 98 and 91 — all more than the 80 EPA limit. Dr. Alan Martindale is the head of water quality in Mesa. “We are looking at a very long time period before there is a danger associated with this,” he said.

IT will be fixed when this type of information is NOT withheld from you and me and is immediately disclosed.

This information should NEVER be hidden from an unsuspecting public to whom any water purveyor is supplying water. This form of non-disclosure should never be tolerated in any form by any government or corporation. We allow it because that’s what we have been educated to believe is acceptable forms of disclosure from government, public officials, politicians, corporations and business. Well it’s not and we have every right to demand and expect absolutely full and open disclosure and not be willing to accept anything less.

This is but the tip of an iceberg of nondisclosure which government, public officials, politicians, corporations and business has and continues to perpetuate on us each and every day. In Arizona we are fed a steady daily diet that there is no current or long term water problem and that our water is SAFE. Moreover, that urban sprawl is the best solution to support the economic policy of unrestricted growth in our state.

Full open honest disclosure will not occur until we individually and collectively stand shoulder to shoulder and demand it and be unwilling to accept anything less.

Website address for Paul F. Miller’s blog …. http://energeticsynergy.blogspot.com/

And let me be even a bit bolder I am most willing to present and discuss any water issue before any audience in Arizona where full disclosure and two way dialog is permitted.

… People should never be afraid of their government, government should always be afraid of the people …